Yeah, it's like a stupid comic-book morality play where the hero says at the end to the villain - "If I was to kill you I would be just as bad as you". Setting the stage for the sequel...
Our enemies seek to destroy us in every generation - including ours, as we have so painfully learned. The Haggadah teaches us that the Almighty saves us, so we are here to tell the story.
They wait for GOD, sounds like a stupid move if one does not know GOD in spirit and truth. If one does, they have no other option. In Exodus GOD moves surrounded by darkness. It is same for those who know GOD in spirit and truth. I love the scene in Exodus, when the Egyptians are lying all along the seashore, everyone there knew it was GOD nobody else. GOD wants us to know HIM, so when HE acts, it cannot be denied. Those that attack orcurse those that know GOD in spirit and truth, curse themselves.
Yes, I can't wait for the older generation to retire. None of them are fit to run a community center, let alone a country. They are garbage. Garbage cannot be reformed, only thrown out.
> “But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will become barbs in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will give you trouble in the land where you will live.”
I was reading Deuteronomy yesterday and stumbled on that quote and thought, "Oh Jees we've done it again, this has bit us for the past 80 years." Torah is all about compassion but it pulls compassion for those who would destroy us. We have a really hard time making that jump. I am reminded of the adage, "No good deed goes unpunished" and we have never internalized that lesson.
Total victory means genocide? What a shameful, empty, and antisemitic slur when Jewish scripture is used to justify the most heinous, vicious, and destabilizing mass crime!
War will never make Israel or Israelis safe. The only way for Palestine to be safe for Israelis is for Israel to be safe and welcoming for Palestinians.
Feel free to ignore me. But Palestine must be safe and welcoming for Israelis — and Israel must be welcoming and safe for Palestinians. The alternative is horrific.
And the Palestinians can retort that the "Israelis" need to be convinced that their lives would be safer, more fulfilling, and more honorable if they would stop devoting their lives to exterminating Arabs who have lived for millennia in what might be called lesser or greater Israel. Right now, the MOST force behind genocide, ethnic cleansing, terrorism, torture, war crimes, and crimes against humanity is being employed by Israel and the United States against Arab Palestinians. Strangely, ironically, and even cruelly, the fact that the Palestinians have so few means of recourse forces them to make urgent ethical claims (which, of course, they undermine when they contribute to escalating cycles of reciprocal terrorism and insane violence).
The only way to begin extracting humanity from this escalating horror is to ensure that Palestine is safe for "Israelis" and "Israel" is welcoming to Palestinians. To deny, ignore, or traduce this is to be a "NOT-SEE" (which can also be spelled with a "z"). No genocide can justify another genocide. No fear of genocide can justify an actual genocide.
Every single war the Israelis have fought with the “Palestinians” has been defensive and every single war waged by the "Palestinians" has had as its explicitly stated goal the genocide of all Jews in Israel. I understand you don’t believe Israelis have the right to self-defense. I understand that you have been completely indoctrinated that the Israelis have committed genocide against the "Palestinians" while they never did, but the "Palestinians" tried every single time to commit genocide against the Israelis. I recognize that you think that genocide of the Israelis is A-OK, because if you didn't think so you wouldn't have a problem with self defense. Everything follows from there.
It's not self defense to destroy schools. It's not self defense to bomb tents. It's not self defense to massacre healthcare workers and civilians in double-tap strikes. It's not self defense to blow up water and sewage facilities. It's not self defense to assassinate journalists. It's not self defense to starve entire populations. It's not self defense to level entire cities. It's not self defense to order evacuations to "safe areas" and then attack those areas mercilessly.
Palestine must be welcoming and safe for Israelis. Israel must be safe and welcoming to Palestinians. Everything follows from there.
"Why do the Jews refuse to win wars the way other people do?" Exactly Right
Yeah, it's like a stupid comic-book morality play where the hero says at the end to the villain - "If I was to kill you I would be just as bad as you". Setting the stage for the sequel...
Our enemies seek to destroy us in every generation - including ours, as we have so painfully learned. The Haggadah teaches us that the Almighty saves us, so we are here to tell the story.
https://substack.com/@thinktorah/note/c-233265291
This question is a constant one I address in my series Israel, the Bible and You: What every Jew should know. See my latest substack piece at schecter.substack.com. Previous ones are easily accessed for free. https://schecter.substack.com/p/israel-the-bible-and-you-what-every-75f?r=1wpgf7&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=true
They wait for GOD, sounds like a stupid move if one does not know GOD in spirit and truth. If one does, they have no other option. In Exodus GOD moves surrounded by darkness. It is same for those who know GOD in spirit and truth. I love the scene in Exodus, when the Egyptians are lying all along the seashore, everyone there knew it was GOD nobody else. GOD wants us to know HIM, so when HE acts, it cannot be denied. Those that attack orcurse those that know GOD in spirit and truth, curse themselves.
I think the younger generation will be glad to win wars. They are different.
Yes, I can't wait for the older generation to retire. None of them are fit to run a community center, let alone a country. They are garbage. Garbage cannot be reformed, only thrown out.
> “But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land, those you allow to remain will become barbs in your eyes and thorns in your sides. They will give you trouble in the land where you will live.”
I was reading Deuteronomy yesterday and stumbled on that quote and thought, "Oh Jees we've done it again, this has bit us for the past 80 years." Torah is all about compassion but it pulls compassion for those who would destroy us. We have a really hard time making that jump. I am reminded of the adage, "No good deed goes unpunished" and we have never internalized that lesson.
Total victory means genocide? What a shameful, empty, and antisemitic slur when Jewish scripture is used to justify the most heinous, vicious, and destabilizing mass crime!
War will never make Israel or Israelis safe. The only way for Palestine to be safe for Israelis is for Israel to be safe and welcoming for Palestinians.
The only way to outsiders not to be stupid is to mind their own shit which they have enough at the moment.
Feel free to ignore me. But Palestine must be safe and welcoming for Israelis — and Israel must be welcoming and safe for Palestinians. The alternative is horrific.
Convince the "Palestinians" not to devote their lives to exterminating us, then we talk.
And the Palestinians can retort that the "Israelis" need to be convinced that their lives would be safer, more fulfilling, and more honorable if they would stop devoting their lives to exterminating Arabs who have lived for millennia in what might be called lesser or greater Israel. Right now, the MOST force behind genocide, ethnic cleansing, terrorism, torture, war crimes, and crimes against humanity is being employed by Israel and the United States against Arab Palestinians. Strangely, ironically, and even cruelly, the fact that the Palestinians have so few means of recourse forces them to make urgent ethical claims (which, of course, they undermine when they contribute to escalating cycles of reciprocal terrorism and insane violence).
The only way to begin extracting humanity from this escalating horror is to ensure that Palestine is safe for "Israelis" and "Israel" is welcoming to Palestinians. To deny, ignore, or traduce this is to be a "NOT-SEE" (which can also be spelled with a "z"). No genocide can justify another genocide. No fear of genocide can justify an actual genocide.
Every single war the Israelis have fought with the “Palestinians” has been defensive and every single war waged by the "Palestinians" has had as its explicitly stated goal the genocide of all Jews in Israel. I understand you don’t believe Israelis have the right to self-defense. I understand that you have been completely indoctrinated that the Israelis have committed genocide against the "Palestinians" while they never did, but the "Palestinians" tried every single time to commit genocide against the Israelis. I recognize that you think that genocide of the Israelis is A-OK, because if you didn't think so you wouldn't have a problem with self defense. Everything follows from there.
What a hypocrite you are.
It's not self defense to destroy schools. It's not self defense to bomb tents. It's not self defense to massacre healthcare workers and civilians in double-tap strikes. It's not self defense to blow up water and sewage facilities. It's not self defense to assassinate journalists. It's not self defense to starve entire populations. It's not self defense to level entire cities. It's not self defense to order evacuations to "safe areas" and then attack those areas mercilessly.
Palestine must be welcoming and safe for Israelis. Israel must be safe and welcoming to Palestinians. Everything follows from there.