I get where you’re coming from; I do. But you’re talking here about ethnic cleansing. That’s a bridge too far. Yes, I know that’s what the other side wants; but I can’t be a side that wants it too.
I will repeat myself, but I have to do it every time I hear the words "ethnic cleansing". After the First World War, for the sake of normal life in Europe, the League of Nations moved hundreds of thousands of Europeans, Asians, people who had lived in their homes for centuries, and simply became victims of a new division of the world.
The Righteous Among the Nations Fridtjof Nansen became a hero by facilitating these movements. And no one called it ethnic cleansing, because the whole world knew that they had prevented mass genocide and slaughter of peoples who were ready to kill each other for various reasons.
After the Second World War, 14 million Germans were expelled from their homes, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, millions of Poles, Italians, Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks, Indians were moved only because the UN believed that this was the only way to preserve peace.
And no one called it ethnic cleansing.
Taking advantage of impunity, Stalin deported dozens of small nations, and for many of these people it meant death. And no one, neither then nor now, calls it ethnic cleansing.
But in the case of Israel, no one even tried to somehow prevent the Arab-Israeli war of 1948. No one proposed dividing the warring populations, as was done in Europe, India, the Mediterranean. The British left the territory of the British Mandate knowing for sure that the massacre of scattered Jewish settlements and in Jerusalem would begin. No one did anything to prevent the Arab armies from invading the newly created Israel, and no one churns out dozens of resolutions about the illegal occupation of Judea and Samaria by Jordan and the genocide of Jews in this territory.
I think the whole world did not expect that the Jews would survive. There were no prerequisites for this, everything was done so that they would not survive.
But everyone tacitly agreed with the eternal status of Arab refugees, the eternal struggle with Israel and the intensification of hatred towards it.
I am not even talking about the lies that have surrounded the mythical "Nakba" by broadcasting false figures, facts and conclusions.
Therefore, knowing what world powers and international organizations have done when it came to other countries and knowing that in the case of Israel it has never worked, do not use the words "ethnic cleansing", because this is a contribution to further wars, a continuation of hatred, and this is what those who want to destroy Israel expect from you. But most importantly, this term can then be applied to hundreds of actions that took place under the auspices of the UN and other international organizations.
And it is also interesting that at the moment when you respond to Uri's arguments, which are aimed at the survival of Israel, calling hypothetical actions "ethnic cleansing", Turkey, which has been occupying Syrian territory for several years, is expelling the Kurds from their places of residence and populating them with ethnic groups loyal to Turkey. The moral value of your statement falls.
Hopefully, Bibi can push off signing any disasterous "peace" with Lebanon for 60 days or so.
Hopefully. He’s very good at not doing anything. For once, this can come in handy.
Правильно Юра. Всех арабов на хуй. В ёбанаю пизду. Хорошо пишешь, и главное умно.
This equation is true in Europe too, that's why Nazis displaced the Jews
Dammit, Uri.
I get where you’re coming from; I do. But you’re talking here about ethnic cleansing. That’s a bridge too far. Yes, I know that’s what the other side wants; but I can’t be a side that wants it too.
"He who is compassionate to the cruel will be cruel to the compassionate."
I will repeat myself, but I have to do it every time I hear the words "ethnic cleansing". After the First World War, for the sake of normal life in Europe, the League of Nations moved hundreds of thousands of Europeans, Asians, people who had lived in their homes for centuries, and simply became victims of a new division of the world.
The Righteous Among the Nations Fridtjof Nansen became a hero by facilitating these movements. And no one called it ethnic cleansing, because the whole world knew that they had prevented mass genocide and slaughter of peoples who were ready to kill each other for various reasons.
After the Second World War, 14 million Germans were expelled from their homes, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, millions of Poles, Italians, Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks, Indians were moved only because the UN believed that this was the only way to preserve peace.
And no one called it ethnic cleansing.
Taking advantage of impunity, Stalin deported dozens of small nations, and for many of these people it meant death. And no one, neither then nor now, calls it ethnic cleansing.
But in the case of Israel, no one even tried to somehow prevent the Arab-Israeli war of 1948. No one proposed dividing the warring populations, as was done in Europe, India, the Mediterranean. The British left the territory of the British Mandate knowing for sure that the massacre of scattered Jewish settlements and in Jerusalem would begin. No one did anything to prevent the Arab armies from invading the newly created Israel, and no one churns out dozens of resolutions about the illegal occupation of Judea and Samaria by Jordan and the genocide of Jews in this territory.
I think the whole world did not expect that the Jews would survive. There were no prerequisites for this, everything was done so that they would not survive.
But everyone tacitly agreed with the eternal status of Arab refugees, the eternal struggle with Israel and the intensification of hatred towards it.
I am not even talking about the lies that have surrounded the mythical "Nakba" by broadcasting false figures, facts and conclusions.
Therefore, knowing what world powers and international organizations have done when it came to other countries and knowing that in the case of Israel it has never worked, do not use the words "ethnic cleansing", because this is a contribution to further wars, a continuation of hatred, and this is what those who want to destroy Israel expect from you. But most importantly, this term can then be applied to hundreds of actions that took place under the auspices of the UN and other international organizations.
And it is also interesting that at the moment when you respond to Uri's arguments, which are aimed at the survival of Israel, calling hypothetical actions "ethnic cleansing", Turkey, which has been occupying Syrian territory for several years, is expelling the Kurds from their places of residence and populating them with ethnic groups loyal to Turkey. The moral value of your statement falls.